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🗓️ 27 June 2021
⏱️ 29 minutes
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On this episode, we’re glad to welcome back our guest, psychiatrist Mark Goulston, who’s been called a “people hacker”. He’s the author of several bestselling books, and was with us on Nobody Told Me! a couple of years ago discussing his book, Talking to 'Crazy': How to Deal with the Irrational and Impossible People in Your Life .
Mark is back with us again and has written two very timely new books as we emerge from the pandemic. One is called, "Why Cope When You Can Heal? How Healthcare Heroes of COVID-19 Can Recover from PTSD" and the other is "Trauma to Triumph: A Roadmap for Leading Through Disruption (and Thriving on the Other Side)"
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black. And on this episode, we're glad to welcome back our guest, psychiatrist Mark Goulston, who's been called |
0:22.0 | a people hacker. He's the author of several bestselling books and was with us on Nobody |
0:26.8 | Told Me a couple of years ago to discuss his book, Talking to Crazy, How to Deal with the Irrational |
0:32.7 | and Impossible People in Your Life. And Mark is back with us again and has written two very timely new books as |
0:39.3 | we emerge from the pandemic. One is called Why Cope When You Can Heal? How Healthcare Heroes of COVID-19 |
0:46.4 | can recover from PTSD. And the other is trauma to triumph, a roadmap for leading through |
0:53.1 | disruption and thriving on the other side. |
0:56.0 | Mark, we thank you so much for joining us. |
0:58.5 | Well, thank you for having me on. |
1:00.1 | I forgot what lovely voices you have. |
1:03.8 | You're made for radio. |
1:06.2 | Thank you so much. |
1:07.5 | Both of your new books touch on the trauma and disruption so many people have faced |
1:12.8 | due to the pandemic. Describe to us what you're seeing. What are your observations about how |
1:19.8 | this whole thing has been impacting people? Well, it's impacted everyone. And it's interesting |
1:26.4 | because it seems like there's a U-shaped curve. |
1:30.1 | There is a number of people that seem to be excited where we're getting past it. |
1:34.3 | They're getting back to the new normal or the old normal, but they're taking their masks off. |
1:40.0 | But we're also hearing of a number of people who are, instead of excited, they're listless, |
1:46.1 | they're unproductive. It's tough to get themselves going. So I've been addressing that part because |
1:52.5 | the other people don't need to be addressed. And people are asking me, well, how do we understand |
1:57.0 | people who the danger is gone? Why are they so listless and unproductive? And the |
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