hey there's the moment

i'm brine compliment thanks for listening

my

guest today

i first met twenty years ago i'm fifty five i was thirty five we both went to

a basketball camp

and we met at basketball camp

that i think it was the the last year you were allowed to do it

or maybe the you right because i think they just stopped it i think they

stopped it because michael came back

and they couldn't get all the mba refs and all that kind of stuff and then

they just got all complicated

but i remember

you don't mark i remembered i wonder you were already famous and you already

owned the team

but you were like forty

i think are forty

two or something like that and it felt like you could almost

make it so you were kind of one of the guys in that setting

and i think it must be much harder for you to be like one of the guys

now if you're not with your old friends

now i mean i don't think so because once you get over that initial hurdle

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