everybody this is carl white broadcasting from the secret headquarters here in the mortgage marketing animals slash freedom and you're listening to loan officer freedom number one podcast in the world today and we really appreciate you guys and thanks so much for all the great reviews that definitely helps us in the algorithms with uh with uh with all the the podcast and i heart and all the stations uh which i think we're on 27 different stations now so we really appreciate all that so uh got a great uh great story great interview today uh very dear friend of mine tony more uh his beautiful bride, Michelle is not with us today.

She's out shopping, my suspicion is.

But I've become very good friends of ours located actually not too far from me.

And I always forget about that, Tony.

We see each other all over the nation when we have our Freedom Club meetings.

And I forget, you're like, I don't know, maybe 100 miles down the road, probably not even.

Yeah, not even that far.

Yeah.

So Tony is a branch manager.

Are you a producing branch manager, Tony, or non-producing?

Yes, correct. My wife and I are producing branch matters. Produce branch managers. All right, perfect. And what company do you work for?

It's, we're an outfit for the mortgage firm. What, say it again? The mortgage firm.

Oh, the mortgage for great company. Brett Lindquist, just an awesome guy.

So great, great company.

But anyway, so what we're going to talk about today, and man, I really appreciate you doing this, Tony.

Basically, this is going to be a, you know, it's a classic story of small town boy makes good right

which is just an ever so classic story and you're such a humble guy and I really appreciate

both you and Michelle both are just extraordinarily humble people so I just I I I know this, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm going to be a, a, a

people, so, but I, I, I, I know, we're going to talk people to let people know what's possible.

But Tony, we're going to talk about today how you've gone from an income, like everybody else, like we all started at literally zero dollars of income to this past year. What did you make,

and we're going to time date this. So as we're recording this, it's the middle of July of 2021.

So in 2020, what did you and Michelle make in not just revenue, but like income, like your personal income, like W2 income, however you do it?

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