I just

I've learned the best way to manage my anxiety. Everybody's anxious about something and AI is coming and I've found over the years

that I've had my best experiences in the world,

doing things in nature that have pushed me

have allowed me to find the best sense of who I am. That's Shelby. She's the

author of the brand new book Will to Wild and a passionate adventurer. She believes that adventure and nature has the power to improve

our mental well-being and help us to connect with ourselves in ways that we don't normally

get to do. Her work as an adventurer and a journalist has appeared

everywhere from Outside magazine, CNN, E-SPN, and the San Diego Tribune. She's

surfed from Canada to Costa Rica, sandboarded down desolate dunes in Cape Town,

paddled down a remote portion of the Amazon River,

and interviewed countless CEOs thought leaders, activists,

and athletes on assignment.

And in her new book, she aims to encourage you to step out into the world, embrace your

will to wild, take risks, and discover who you truly are. It honestly was a super fun conversation.

I always love getting the chance to speak with Shelby, so let's jump right into it.

Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for coming back.

Greg, it's always an honor to talk to you and congrats on your big adventure, the adventure of love.

Yeah, yeah, I actually don't even know if my listeners know, but I am getting married in 13 days from the date of this recording.

So August 12th, and it's weird that it's here because we've been engaged for three years.

So it like feels both like where did the last three years go and also

how are we already here at the same time?

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