What is up everybody? Welcome back to the Mind Over Macros Podcast. As always, I am your

host Mike Milner and we just finished recording with Jason Phillips who is a close friend and mentor of mine and somebody that I have a ton of respect for and we had a great conversation I think you guys are really going to

dig it get a lot out of it there's a lot of takeaways and if you guys can do me a

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All right, Jason, what's going on man? I appreciate you joining me.

Dude, what is going on, my man? It is good to be here.

Yeah, I know your schedule is crazy and you just had a certification course this weekend is that right?

Yeah dude we literally I literally got in last day at 2.30 in the morning from

4 Lauderdale after flight delays but it was a really good weekend man like

always did the pass on that knowledge so can never complain yeah and I know that

those weekends just take a lot out of you you put put so much into them and it's great and just for reference like every single one of my coaches is required to go through that level one certification and they always come back with just they're all fired up so ready to roll and and it's awesome

so I do appreciate coming on and yeah I'm excited to just jump in because there's a lot about your story that I know that I know will resonate with my audience, but then there's some other stuff that I'm, you know, I'm excited to learn more about.

So to get started, why don't we just, like what was the very

first thing that got you into fitness in general, like your first introduction to this whole industry.

Yeah, I mean, so my story is a little bit different than most.

I mean, a lot of, I think that a lot of you would expect like you know somebody

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