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Welcome to Late Night Woman's Hour with me, Emma Barnett.

Each week we bring together brilliant women to talk literally about anything they want.

Work, love, relationships, politics, sex, everything that matters and everything in between,

which matters too, including the fluffy stuff.

Who have we got round the table? Let me tell you. Writer and broadcaster, Sally Hughes, the author of

the book's Pretty Honest and most recently are Rainbow Queen. Hello to you. Hello.

And Miranda Sawyer, broadcaster and writer. She writes on music and radio for The Observer. She's also

the author of Out of Time. Welcome. Thank you very much.

I'm not reading you on radio. I'm just talking to you on it. It's brilliant. Sally,

some men really hate seeing women do their makeup on the train or on the tube or on the bus or whatever form of public transport.

Have you come across this and do you actually someone who's in the business of makeup

in lots of different ways?

Do you do your makeup on public transport?

Yes, I definitely do my makeup on public transport.

I have quite strict rules surrounding that, which I'm sure we'll come to.

But yes, by and large, I do my makeup on the train.

I live in Brighton, so I travel to London about twice a week, sometimes four times, and I will do it on the train.

And yes, some people certainly disapprove.

They're most likely to be men, but some women do disapprove also.

I amazingly have been tuttered at by a man who was watching pornography as he tutted at me putting on my

lipstick which was a which was a beautiful illustration of the gender divide there but

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