It's so important that we stay true to the voice that is ours, that is telling us who and what we want to be.

That's why I love that Lucille Clifton quote. What they call you is one thing, what you answer to is something else.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from red, wine, and blue.

Today we're joined by Connie Schultz, a writer, journalism professor, the wife of Ohio Senator Shared

Brown, and all around absolutely amazing person. So Connie, thank you so much for joining us today.

Connie, we need Bill for Happy right now. Well, what a kind introduction. Thank you. So we're all

feeling devastated by last week's election results, and you're dealing with a double

loss of the presidential race and your husband's re-election bid.

So let's just start with this.

How are you doing?

We are doing, I'll say because we've had a few days with this to sit with this and we've been

immersed as i say in the chaos you know the gentle loving chaos of our family uh we are doing well

that doesn't mean we're not having moments of i mean it was a wave of sadness um we went from

election night basically it was triage because we knew as soon as we know how it was going we had a wave of sadness. We went from election night, basically it was triage

because we knew, as soon as we know how it was going,

we had a lot of people to take care of immediately.

Our own family was there, seven of our grandchildren were there,

all of the staff.

We really didn't know, Sherry was shocked.

I was not.

I was hopeful, always that he was gonna win, but I was not shocked. I was not. I was hopeful, always that he was going to win, but I was not shocked.

I'm trying to give you a sense of how I can say we're doing well, because I want you to think we're

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