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Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maggie Smith on Despair, Hope, Divorce, and Poetry

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Mental Health, Comedy, John Moe, Comedy Interviews, Interview, Health & Fitness

5777 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

The Ohio-based writer shares three poems and a great deal of insight.

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0:00.0

One of my favorite characters on The Simpsons is Nelson. Nelson Munts. I like Nelson because he's

0:15.0

complicated and he will surprise you. Nelson's kind of a bully, sure, but he is also someone who has been hurt, someone

0:23.0

who's looking for a way to deal with all of the anger and pain and resentment within him.

0:29.3

Season 7, episode 20, episode called Bart on the Road. Bart, Millhouse, Martin Prince,

0:36.9

and Nelson are on a long road trip. They've

0:40.0

procured a car, and Nelson makes them all stop in Branson, Missouri so he can see his idol perform.

0:47.8

Andy Williams. Nelson loves Andy Williams, loves the gentle, voiced crooning, and he stares, transfixed in love through

0:57.7

the whole concert. As they leave the concert hall, Nelson says, I didn't think he was going to sing

1:03.7

Moon River, and then bam, second encore. Tears of joy. Okay, anyway, hi, it's Depresh Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

1:14.0

Our guest this week is kind of the Andy Williams of the poetry world. Maggie Smith is a poet.

1:20.1

She lives in Ohio, and she became pretty famous for a poem called Good Bones that came out in 2016.

1:28.1

It's about the cruelty of the world and the pursuit and preservation of hope.

1:34.1

I wanted to get Maggie on this show because I've been thinking a lot about despair and about hope and about cruelty lately.

1:42.7

I've been thinking about the cruelty of the world and the fear of living in it.

1:46.9

There is so much to be anxious about right now, so much to be depressed about,

1:53.1

so much trauma that has happened and is happening and is looming on the horizon.

1:58.7

And if you have disorders or just problems related to anxiety or depression or trauma already,

2:07.1

these are tough times, to put it way too mildly.

2:11.6

I was going to lead with that, but I thought maybe Nelson was a little more palatable,

2:17.1

bring you in a little bit using cartoons.

2:19.3

One way of dealing with tough times, historically, is to turn to the poets for some guidance, for some reflection, maybe wisdom or fellowship.

2:30.4

Just as Andy Williams has other great songs, can't take my Eyes Off You, Where Do I Begin from the movie Love Story?

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