There is not just violence, but there is respect of violence because those that shout loudest and hit hardest,

they're the ones that get their way. And so the way of Jesus is an interesting thing to start talking about in a community where vulnerability is feared.

And if you don't know that there is a God that's got you and a community who you can learn to trust,

how do you live differently?

How do you stop that bit of illegal work on the side that kind of pays the bill?

I'm learning huge amounts of what it looks like for the kingdom of God to come

and for peace and justice to roll like streams in these streets.

Welcome, everybody. This is Simon Gilbo with Inspired. So good to be back for another fantastic

week. I know you're going to enjoy this one. Listen, I think many of us just had enough of being

relentlessly bombarded by negativity in the press that makes us more anxious and cynical and

depressed and what we need is to hear great news and we have got the best news in the world and

we've got someone who is extremely good at living and embodying and sharing this great news that

we've got so massive welcome to rachel gardner. Hi, Rachel. Hi, Simon.

That is such a lovely intro. Thank you. Well, it's great to have you. So Rachel and I are not sure how

far we go back, but she's married to Jason, who I was at university with. So that's, well, we are at

university, I know almost 30 years ago at Loughborough and I think, Rachel,

I probably saw you first on BBC with your, with that television program you did, no sex please

with with teenagers.

So that was back in about 2005 maybe.

You've interviewed me actually at Spring Harvest and so it's nice for me doing the interviewing

this time. I'll give you a less

grilled time maybe that you gave me. No, only joking. And Youthscape is a big part of your life and

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