Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Marianne Sullivan, and this is Jasmine Singer.

This week, Jasmine has a really, really extraordinary interview. She will be speaking with

Musisi Mike, who is the Ugandan activist who is founded and is running Love for All Uganda, which is devoted to uplifting human and non-human beings.

And he's also the director of the All-Vegan Atlas Community School in Uganda.

Whoa. So cool. Like brilliant guy. And it was so amazing to just touch base with him about what's going on in Uganda.

He's doing extraordinary work. Like truly extraordinary. I've been so excited to share this with everyone.

And I also want to add that we are including two versions

of this on this episode where we have a voiceover version because our accent and his accents

are not, they're not necessarily easy to understand together. So we have someone who is doing

a voiceover with what might make it easier

for some of our listeners. But if you want to hear Musisi, just stay on the episode until the end,

because we'll play his full interview without the voiceover. So hopefully that's helpful for people.

And yeah, I'm so excited about this.

Isn't it cool?

Well, I just love these interviews that show how worldwide veganism is and caring about animals.

And it makes me feel like, you know, I've said it before, like we're just so connected to people who, you know, more connected in some ways to people in Uganda

who get it about animals than we are

connected to the people next to having the barbecue.

It's one of the feelings that really makes me

keep going.

While you were talking, I just got a kiss

on the heel of my foot.

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