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Goes Without Saying

loneliness & bad friends: it's not me it's you

Goes Without Saying

SEPHY AND WING

Society & Culture

4.9695 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

podmothers sephy & wing enter the chat: spiralling on lucy sheridan (the world's first comparison coach), resentment and conflict, losing touch, catching up, and finding real connection in your 20s.


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0:00.0

Goes Without Saying, you're listening to Goes Without Saying with Seffi and Wing. I'm Seffi.

0:05.5

And I'm Wing. And I've loved this episode so much. We're talking about friendship breakups.

0:12.1

So hold your friends close. We're talking about boundaries, communication, the sad thing when you just

0:18.9

realise you're no longer compatible with people, what to look for in friendships, especially in your late 20s or when you just realize you're no longer compatible with people,

0:21.2

what to look for in friendships,

0:22.7

especially in your late 20s or when you're reaching a stage of life

0:26.3

where you just think, I don't have a fucking time for this.

0:29.3

So I hope you enjoy it.

0:31.4

Welcome back. We're pre-recording. We're getting ahead of the game.

0:35.4

Which feels so like the fucking right thing to do. It is, isn't it? But if you've said something in the past week that we haven't addressed, that's why. We're coming to you from the past. Very much the past. How is it out there? To you from about 10 minutes in between the last episode and now? And since then. Yes. Oh my God, so much has happened. Just in this past week, yeah. God. If you heard last week we were saying about a certain someone that I stalked. Yeah. Someone from my past that I stalked and saw that they had a new girlfriend. And it was like, okay, oh my God. And I was like, wing, let me, I'm going to show you the photo, blah, blah, blah, that I had discussed in the previous ab. Went to go find it. Gone. Caput. A lot can happen in a 10 minute break. God. I mean, in that time. Yeah, revelation after revelations. Yeah, I know. Wow.

1:28.4

I'm excited for this one.

1:29.5

This was actually something that someone sent in on Instagram.

1:33.2

I just almost feel like I haven't thought about it in this specific way.

1:37.1

Yeah.

1:38.6

And again, classically, in a classic kind of goes without saying,

1:41.7

way, it is the sort of thing that everyone experiences in some sort of way, but it's just not talked about enough.

1:49.0

It feels like, as soon as you read it out, it's like, okay, there are definitely things on the mind.

1:54.1

Like, immediately, it's like, okay, there are definitely things to talk about here.

1:58.0

Yeah.

1:58.6

Like, it feels like a kind of, I know that the late 20s almost are a point.

2:05.9

It's a point where people start thinking maybe like a little bit more critically about

2:10.3

what they want their life to look like and who's like good for them, bad for them,

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