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#Londinium90AD: Gaius & Germanicus find an historical analog to the Ukraine War in the War Between the States, 1861-1865. Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society. @Michalis_Vlahos

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🗓️ 21 August 2023

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#Londinium90AD: Gaius & Germanicus find an historical analog to the Ukraine War in the War Between the States, 1861-1865. Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society. @Michalis_Vlahos

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0:00.0

This is the Fr. V. Debating Society.

0:02.6

I am Gaias, John Bachelor.

0:04.9

Germanicus, Mark of Laos, is here.

0:06.8

By the Thames, it is late summer, 91 AD.

0:11.1

The Empire that we live in is at peace.

0:14.6

We are surrounded by centurions in their families shopping nicely.

0:19.1

Londonium is not threatened by anyone that we can imagine at this point.

0:23.9

The Empire is troubled way far from us in the Asian frontier.

0:29.2

The Emperor is disappointing, but nonetheless, we know that our future is secure here.

0:36.0

There won't be trouble in Londonium for another two centuries.

0:39.0

So we look for trouble in the 21st century.

0:42.1

And Germanicus and I, for our months now, have been looking for an explanation for how

0:49.5

Ukraine is fighting the war, the counteroffensive.

0:53.8

What explains it?

0:55.5

The results now are extremely stark and disappointing.

1:01.0

This is the New York Times reporting in these last days.

1:04.1

The total number of Ukrainian and Russian troops killed or wounded since the war in Ukraine

1:08.6

began 18 months ago.

1:10.2

It's nearing 500,000, according to US officials, to the New York Times.

1:17.8

A staggering toll, the New York Times writes, as Russia assaults its next-door neighbor.

1:23.7

The official figures, the official's caution that casually figures remain difficult to

1:28.4

estimate because Moscow's believed to routinely undercount its war, dead, and injured.

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