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Welcome to the Ar-Labs podcast, and I just have to tell everybody listening that one of my favorite people walking around planet Earth is with us today.

Vanessa Knaff all the way from Seattle. I can't believe all the way from Seattle.

Hi. Hey, Vanessa. Hello. Gloomy Seattle. That's because I'm not there. When I go, the sun always comes out.

So I just have to go more. That's true. We eat better as well. I don't think I've been there since pre-pandemic.

And I said this to Vanessa before we started. I literally walk around my house once a week thinking, why am I not in Seattle hanging out with Vanessa? And my other friend out there, Ian,

Ian, if you're listening, I know Vanessa loves you, but I love you too, man,

and I miss you. And I want to, I can't wait to get out there and hang out with you guys again. And I want to

bring Ali, my wife, because she's never been to Seattle and she's got to see a safe. Yeah, especially when it's sunny.

Yeah, Ian is actually the person who got me into going in the first place.

And so Ian's my connection to all of you.

Ian's good at making connections with people.

He's very outgoing and friendly and a ton of fun to hang out with.

So I believe that.

Okay, Vanessa, this podcast is about you.

I'm really interested in hearing your story through through tech so

a couple things before we start I'm going to have to age you a little bit and unfortunately

because I need to kind of what do I mean I need to need to know, like, what year you graduated high school.

Oh, God. I graduated high school in 2003, but I was, yeah, I was, I had just turned 17 at the time.

So I was born 86. Yeah, you know, I graduated high school too when I were 17. So I didn't turn 18 for a few more months after that.

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