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Welcome to the Arn Labs podcast.

Our special guest today is Cheaton Kanaki.

Dude, I am so happy to have you because I've,

I think you're one of the first people I've ever got to really know and meet when I started

the Go community around 2013.

You were one of the first people to be kind to me and talk to me.

And I've always appreciated that.

And you've always been doing interesting stuff.

So I thought having you on the show would be really, really cool, especially since we haven't caught up in a while.

Absolutely, Bill. First of all, good morning. Good morning to all listeners. And it's fantastic to be here as a guest for many reasons. First one being that we haven't spoken forever, and I have been a big admirer of you as a person,

especially the effort that you put in incubating this Go community and then harnessing the

potential of the community to become what you have become today, you know, as a company.

So as a friend, I'm very proud of you.

And as a listener, as a attendee of your training sessions, you know, I'm very excited, happy

because the way you teach is a very unique skill that you have.

Not everyone has that skill because imparting education is not easy.

If you know, we all remember certain teachers who actually leave an imprint because they

taught us something that we can actually recall even as time passes.

And I remember when I attended that training of yours, you have a very

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