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Welcome to the Ar Labs podcast, our special guest today.

And I've been trying to get this guy for years, well, maybe not years, but at least 10-something months.

John Calhoun, John, dude, thank you. So glad we finally got a chance to connect.

Thanks for having me, Bill. It's been a while because I've been busy working on updates for things and just you get busy with stuff and it's like, I don't know if I have extra time for other podcasts right now.

It doesn't help as well that I do the Go Time podcast. So it's like I've already got one podcast trying to get more of my time.

No, I get.

I mean, you got, you got all that training material that I've only heard amazing things about.

And you've got to constantly keep that up to date and maintained.

And you got young kids. And, you know, life is, life is good,

but it's busy. So it's all cool. Yeah, I think the last time you reached out was when I was in the

process of adopting my son. So that was also a rather hectic time. Yeah. But we're here now.

We're here together. So I can't wait to kind of hear your story.

But before anything else, give everybody two minutes of what you're doing today, career-wise,

career-wise.

So I create go courses that are, they're mostly designed for people sort of just

getting into go, but not like the absolute beginner stage. It's more like you've learned the

basics of like how to write hello world, that sort of thing. And you're looking to sort of take

that next step moving towards junior developer type role. So the most popular one is gopher sizes, which is just some free

exercises. And like kind of my motivation there was that every time people talk about like

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