Hello, beloved listeners.

This is Adrienne.

And we are bringing you an episode that Autumn and I actually recorded live at the Great

Northern Winter Festival, which just took place on January 31st in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

It was a really beautiful conversation, intimate conversation that we got to have with our community

and so we absolutely wanted you to hear it all and i just want to take a second to thank the team

because it took such good care of us and we felt so yeah i loved, like safely able to get together and have this conversation.

So thank you to Javan C. Speller Rebola.

Angel Akurian, Brianna Lowe, Jasa McKenzie, Lily Binovitz, and Charlie Frisk.

Really grateful to y'all.

And really hope everyone enjoys this conversation.

Sending a love.

All right.

So this next conversation really brings us into the heart of climate work.

Adrian Marie Brown and Autumn Brown are writers, facilitators, and activists whose work centers

collective care, imagination, and survival.

As sisters who share multiracial and diasporic lineages, they bring both intimacy and depth to conversations about crisis, transformation, and what it means to come through endings together.

I'm personally really excited for this one because I learned about Adrian years ago reading her book, Emergent Strategy.

And here I felt like the book had been written just for me.

I was on my journey out of the Army. I was leaving the army. I was looking for other

challenges. And I was seeking meaning in the world. And so I want to share a couple of core

principles from that book that I think are especially apt today. So first, there is always

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