Hello, beloved survivors. This is Autumn. A couple of months ago, I had a truly wonderful

conversation on a very special podcast called Becoming the Vision. It's a show where hosts Dr.

Cherere Reed and Dr. Trinnell Torrian invite visionaries both from the field of

philanthropy and beyond who believe and practice the idea that we must change ourselves in order

to change the world into deep conversation. So it was a thrill to get invited on their show

to discuss my own creative origin story.

And we also talked a lot about my new book, which you can pre-order now. It's called Temper,

practicing freedom in an unfree world. There's a pre-order link in the show notes. I'm excited to

share a lot more about the book with

all of you in the coming months, but for now, I just want to share this conversation. So here's

Chera, Trinnell, and I getting right into it. I believe that fugitive practice is at its heart a deep practice of self-study

and as I was doing the self-study and peeling back more and more layers of my own life story,

I realized that I had been in some form of fugitive practice my entire life.

Hey guys, it's Trinnell.

Hey, y'all. It's Chera, and this is Becoming the Vision.

This is a show about practicing the future we deserve and is the official podcast of freedom

dreams and philanthropy.

In this podcast, we feature visionaries who embrace the tradition of freedom dreaming in service

to racial justice and collective liberation.

This season, our focus is dreaming forward, and we are thrilled to welcome Autumn Brown,

mother, movement leader, and musician.

Welcome, Autumn.

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