Now, are all the traitors present? Let's get started, shall we? From rags to riches. I'm so sick of this. Working like a dog and being treated worse. Yorkshire to New York. Or climbers, you and me. A life dedicated to revenge. Let's make this an occasion to remember. A Woman of Substance on Channel 4. Stream now. What's Cracking? Welcome to the program, day number two of the mother of all roadies, and it's the best thing possible. I am Jim Rome, and I missed it yesterday. We are on Radio Row this year. We missed last year, but we are back, and it feels absolutely awesome. We are wall-to-wall with guests, and I've got a big dude starting off in just one minute. Quick reminder with professional grade products for every industry. Grainter as you covered. Call or click Grainter.com or just stop on by. All right. So we're on Radio Road. We will be here the entire week. I'm doing the after hour here. We're getting you ready for the Super Bowl on Sunday. And as I mentioned, a wall-to-wall guests. In fact, fact no open no monologue off the top right to

this guy a defensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers he has spent his entire 15 years with that

franchise he is a seven time pro bowler he is a six time all pro he is as well the 2023

walter patent NFL man of the year he's also host of the Not Just Football with Cam Hayward podcast and is appearing today, courtesy of the NFL's crucial catch intercept cancer campaign. Of course, I'm talking about the big dude, Cam Hayward. Cam, it's been a minute. Great to see you, big fella. How are you doing? I'm great. Now I'm with you. Yeah, man. So good to see you, man. How are you living? How are things? Things are different,

but things are good. All right, so elaborate on different. I think I know where you're going

with that, but how are things different? Well, Mike Tomlin has retired. We have a new head coach

in Mike McCarthy and, you know know dealing with that and also our loss

not too you know long ago but yeah just trying to make sense of all it's been a crazy off

season it just barely started well respect I appreciate you so much that you answered it like that

I mean that's just being real and transparent it is different it is It is really, really different. You've been there

that whole time and the one constant, you and Mike Tomlin, did you have any idea that that was

in his mind? What was your reaction when you found out that he said, I'm good, I'm done? I was in

complete shock. I had no idea. You know, I remember just looking at my grade sheet and then he said it,

and I was like, where am I right now? Because I didn't think I was ever going to hear those words. It almost felt like a death in the family just because I've had so much stability with him. So it really threw me for a loop after the season. Cameron Hayward joining me. Now you might say to me, if you want to know, go find him, ask him, but I don't think I'm going to be able to find him. If you had to guess,

why do you think he stepped down when he stepped down? Because clearly, the team would have brought

him back. I don't know. You know, I've asked that question a lot of him, and he's been,

you know, pretty straightforward. But been you know pretty straightforward but you know I

think one he wants to spend time with his family you know I was just talking on the

day about his daughter Harley who's killing it at UGA right now but also spending

time with your family you don't know how much you've been away until you come back into the picture.

And that is big.

You know, 19 years with one team is, you know, not like an abrupt thing.

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