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Mama Knows

Listener's Favorite: Boundaries, Drama, and Toxic In-laws w/Erin & Stephan

Mama Knows

Cloud10

Parenting, Kids & Family

5.01K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Nina chats with @couples.counseling.for.parents, Stephen and Erin Mitchell, about navigating in-law dynamics in relationships. They share practical advice on setting boundaries, communicating needs, and working as a team. The conversation covers how to handle defensive partners, manage sensitive conversations, and distinguish between difficult and toxic relationships. Stephen and Erin also discuss when it may be necessary to set firmer boundaries or cut off toxic family members, emphasizing the importance of staying united as a couple. About Erin and Stephen: We are a married couple with three kids and founders of Couples Counseling for Parents. Also, we both have advanced degrees in psychology. Stephen is a psychotherapist and has a PhD in Medical Family Therapy and Erin has a Masters in Counseling Psychology. We have taken all our experience (personal and professional) and education about relational wellness and developed practical tools for couples to connect and stay connected as they parent. Caraway’s cookware set is a favorite for a reason, it can save you up to $190 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you visit Carawayhome.com/MAMAKNOWS or use code MAMAKNOWS at checkout, you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I am so excited about today's topic. I have yet to talk to anybody about in-laws on my podcast.

0:12.9

And my podcast is over two years old. And this is one of the top requested topics because

0:18.1

in-laws, you know, you know, right? Okay, so I'm excited about this topic.

0:24.8

It's going to get juicy. I'm also a little nervous because you never want to hurt anyone's

0:29.4

feelings, right? But before we dive in, Stephen and Aaron, do you mind introducing yourselves

0:35.0

and tell me a little bit about what you guys do?

0:38.6

Well, yeah, so we're Stephen and Aaron Mitchell and we run a company called Couples Counseling for Parents.

0:44.6

And we are authors, speakers, and coaches for couples who are specifically in the parenting stage of their relationship.

0:53.9

And our whole goal is to give couples in this phase and stay. specifically in the parenting stage of their relationship.

0:54.1

And our whole goal is to give couples in this phase and stage of their relationship research

0:59.8

informed psychologically sound information about how to have strong, lasting relationships.

1:06.8

Yes.

1:07.8

And one of the major things we hear about also is we're doing really well, you know,

1:15.2

like we're making it through the stress. Our kids are great. Life is great. But our in-laws are this

1:22.7

massive gap between us. Like there's this wedge. There's this topic we can't bro. The only thing we

1:28.1

argue about is the only time we argue is when somebody's parents are coming or if whatever.

1:34.6

It's a big deal. That's so interesting. I was going to ask you actually before we dive into all

1:40.6

my questions, I was going to ask how common it is for couples that you see to bring

1:46.0

that topic up and how common it is for them to argue about in-laws and boundaries and stuff like

1:52.9

that. So it's pretty common, you would say? I would say it's so common that we, so we recently

1:57.7

wrote a book called Too Tired to Fight. Two chapters of that book are about family and relationships and in-laws and toxic relationships

2:06.4

with in-laws and how to set boundaries.

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