Lisa Cook, Troops in Chicago, Susan Monarez

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

News, Politics

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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In a special three-guest episode, Trey and Ken are joined by Mike. They start the show with a conversation on Trump’s attempted firing of Federal Reserve Board Member Lisa Cook over mortgage applications. Trey overviews what is happening and the likely desire of President Trump to influence monetary policy. Ken discusses the current legal landscape for the firing of independent board members, and Mike is thoroughly disturbed by the entire process. Next, the guys move to Chicago and the potential for National Guard troops to be deployed. Trey stakes out a firm line: if troops are sent to an American city, we have finally gone off the road of democracy. Ken discusses the potential legal ramifications as the use of military force to uphold state law can potentially be illegal. They close the show by looking both at the firing of former CDC Director Susan Minarez and the implications of that for public health in the wake of RFK Jr.’s most recent statements and policies. Trey explains the fundamentally unscientific basis of RFK Jr’s position: that nothing can be falsified. Mike and Ken discuss the implications of political meddling on vaccines and public health. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Check out the excellent Sustainable Planet podcast. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support atpatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:20.9	I'm the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government, love, the government, the government, hot, the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy. I'm Trey Orndorff, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University, and I'm joined today by both Ken Kacken, a professor of law at Chase Law School.
0:40.7	And it's kind of a bonus here for the politics, guys.
0:43.4	We also have Mike Baranowski, a professor of political science formerly at Northern Kentucky
0:48.7	University.
0:50.0	Mike, thanks for being our third person on the show today.
0:53.7	I'm happy to be here with you guys.
0:55.1	I don't know if I'm going to be able to handle doing a show without a MAGA co-host, but
1:00.1	you know, my best.
1:03.0	Well, we'll try to be a little extra MAGA for you and we'll say things like, listen,
1:09.6	the sky is not blue.
1:11.0	It is Trumpian.
1:12.7	And I don't even know.
1:14.8	I can't even.
1:15.2	I don't know.
1:15.9	I think today, unfortunately, Mike, I think what's going to end up happening is that we're all going to sigh a lot at.
1:24.4	Yeah.
1:24.9	That's what I think's going to happen.
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