Limited Atonement, Universalism and why I disagree with both.

BibleThinker

Mike Winger

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 29 May 2019

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Does 2 Corinthians 5:14-15 teach Limited Atonement? Does it teach Universalism? Does 1 John 2:2 present a challenge to Limited Atonement? Disclaimer - This is not a comprehensive discussion of these topics but I have gathered some questions I have been sent about a few specific passages of scripture dealing with limited atonement (the L in the Calvinist TULIP) and universalism (the idea that all people will be saved). I expect many of my brethren who are Calvinists to disagree with a lot of what I say in this video. You are more than welcome to share your disagreement in the comments and I appreciate you doing so in a manner representing our common faith in Christ. If you love this ministry and want to help me continue to produce free content teaching people to think biblically about everything then click here. https://biblethinker.org/index.php/donate If you want one of the new BibleThinker coffee mugs they are avaiable here (be sure to read the info at that link for instructions on shipping discounts and how to ship outside the continental US). https://www.zockollpottery.com/product-page/bible-thinker-mug?fbclid=IwAR2g_3IXu2mc-PeTi_7MHEulBvJ28fMzH-s3ZqzYX2aFALCAeCaaSwcpxKg

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0:00.0	I'm Pastor Mike Winger and this is Bible Thinker the program dedicated to thinking
0:05.8	biblically about everything.
0:09.7	All right here we go.
0:11.3	Welcome to the Wednesday live stream. This is not the normal time for me, but welcome. Here we go.
0:17.5	I'm Pastor Mike Winger and we're going to be talking today about limited atonement and universalism and this actually
0:24.8	this was just going to be a quick little few minutes into the video and then I was going to
0:28.8	go to Q&A but as I was preparing for it and realized that as I tweeted out I'd be talking about limited
0:34.3	atonement James White tweeted that he'd be listening and I thought well I better make
0:39.6	you better for James White so so yes we're we're going to be going a little bit deeper into the issue than I had originally planned, but this isn't going to be a complete survey of the topic. Really, it was spurred on by a question asked by one of you, one of my viewers who asked me about a specific
0:55.2	passage in 2 Corinthians saying, hey, is this limited atonement?
0:59.5	How do we respond to that?
1:00.5	So I'm going to come out in a minute.
1:02.4	First, let me just explain how this will work.
1:04.0	If you have questions, you can put them in the live chat.
1:06.0	We'll gather some questions, a select group of those questions for me to answer at the end of the stream.
1:10.0	If you're James White, hi, Dr. James White, I love you my brother, but I think
1:16.6	you're wrong on this. Let me explain. And yeah, let's just jump into it. So what is limited
1:22.3	atonement?
1:23.2	Limited atonement and no matter how I describe it here, someone's going to disagree with me.
1:26.8	That's fine, that's okay. I'll just live with it. But limited atonement is the idea
1:31.5	that God only provide a payment for the sins of certain people, namely the elect.
1:37.0	That Jesus' death only actually paid for the sins of specific individuals, the ones who would end up believing in him.
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