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The Times Tech Podcast

Lilium's Daniel Wiegand: "Flying hairdryers"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent brings on Daniel Wiegand, founder of Lilium, to talk about how he got hooked on the idea of air taxis (3:00), being a first-time founder (4:20), reimagining the hair dryer (6:20), building the first prototype (8:30), why science is his friend (11:10), starting with pilots (13:05), why silence is golden (15:20), how Lilium plans to launch its own air taxi service (17:50), being as cheap as ride-hailing (21:00), why cities are interested (23:20), learning on the job (24:05), what China wants (27:00), what the world looks like in 2039 (29:35), why he doesn’t just want to be a manufacturer (31:40), looking at Africa (35:50), why batteries are critical (36:35), his worst day of work (38:10), and why the air taxi boom is happening now (40:20).

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0:00.0

Yeah, technology.

0:02.0

What is it all about?

0:04.0

So you're going to have a Lillium app and that works initially in a few cities, ultimately globally.

0:10.0

And you can book the jet on this app.

0:13.0

And it works like a ride-hailing service with the difference that you're getting an aircraft.

0:18.0

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and

0:25.6

inside the minds, the top people in tech. This is episode one of two this week. So if you check

0:33.4

your feed, you should have two new ones in there, and they are both about in different ways,

0:39.3

the future. For this one, I managed to grab a bit of time with Daniel Weekend, the founder

0:46.2

of Lillium, which you may have never heard of, but if he has his way, we will all know about

0:53.0

Lilium soon. It could become one of those

0:56.7

apps, like Uber or Netflix or Amazon. What does it do? Flying cars, obviously. Lillium is, I believe,

1:06.7

the best-funded air taxi startup in the world. They've raised $100 million, planned to raise

1:13.1

hundreds of millions more. And this last week, they published footage of their five-seater

1:18.2

prototype flying around looking like an airworthy human transporter. The company is based in

1:25.2

Munich and their goal is in the not too distant future to have an app where in a few swipes, you could hail an air taxi at the same cost on a per mile basis of an Uber.

1:36.3

And that sounds crazy, not least because he's a first time founder.

1:41.2

And you may recall last season we had the head of Uber Elevate on this program. They also

1:47.3

were working on air taxis, although they are not developing their own aircraft, whereas

1:52.2

Lillium is. And Lillium basically wants to become an Uber competitor. So lots to play for. It's a

1:59.5

really interesting story, and I will let Daniel explain why he thinks they can pull it off.

2:05.2

So without further ado, here he is.

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