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Yo, technology. What is it all about?

So we did a bit of research to figure out you know what's this

kind of minimum uh what i call a minimum viable product MVP for killing people and it turns out

that something about three inches in diameter carrying about three grams of explosive, which produces an explosively formed

penetrator, which is enough to kill a person.

Welcome to your bonus episode of Danny in the Valley, where we have a very special guest.

Stuart Russell, the man who literally wrote the book on artificial intelligence, is with us. He is a Brit. He is a professor

at Berkeley in California. And 25 years ago, he wrote artificial intelligence a modern approach.

It is the most used textbook in the field.

It's been used to train literally millions of students around the world, but there is a problem.

Russell reckons that we are well on the way to having truly intelligent machines that will supersede all of us.

The only issue with that is, is that basically the way we are crafting them is wrong.

And it is leading to a potentially whole set of very terrible outcomes for humanity.

So he's written a book about what we are facing.

And also, how to avoid it.

He is very eloquent and in an understated way,

terrifyingly clear about the capabilities of AI. So if you care about the future of the human race,

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