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The Thanks for joining us on the University of Badass Surrey podcast.

This is C.J. Ortiz, the metal motivator.

And we're going to go into a deep discussion with Pat McNamara.

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Mac Keep the Blaze Alive coaching squad.

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coffee.com. Now, let's go into the interview with Pat Mac. All right. Well, then let me just

take just a couple of minutes here and set the stage. I think, as I mentioned to the squad today,

we'll be talking about tonight, life advice

for young men. And it's not simply because we're looking for something to talk about. This is

something he and I are both, we have a wide purview. We, we're seeing things outside of the normal

space of what influencers want to talk about.

We used to say in the church a long time ago,

well, if you get somebody converted when they're older, that's great,

but it's only a few years before the devil can put them in the ground.

But you convert a child, and you've got their whole life, you know.

So the younger you can reach anybody, it's always going to be the better.

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