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Hey, it's Jake Brennan, and on my podcast, Disgraceland, I tell stories from the dark side of the music business.

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Was that accidental, given the condition they were in and hyperphemia now absolutely setting it,

did they just accidentally burn themselves or was it something else? I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a nonfiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas.

I'm also the co-host of the podcast Buried Bones on Exactly Right.

And throughout my career, research for my many audio and book projects has taken me around the world.

On Wicked Words, I sit down with the people I've met along the way,

amazing writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters

who have investigated and reported on notorious true crime cases.

This is about the choices writers make, both good and bad,

and it's a deep dive into the unpublished details

behind their stories.

Filmmaker Liam Legu was fascinated with the mystery surrounding the deaths of nine experienced

Russian hikers in the Ural Mountains in 1959.

Paul Holes and I talked about this case on buried bones,

but Liam really, really dug into the mystery.

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