This is exactly right.

Hey, it's Jake Brennan, and on my podcast, Disgraceland, I tell stories from the dark side of the music business.

And I'm thrilled to announce that now, Disgraceland and its celebrity spin-off, Hollywoodland,

have found a new home here at the Exactly Right network in partnership with

iHeart podcasts you can binge over 250 episodes of disgrace land's back catalog and listen to new

episodes every tuesday bonus episodes on thursday and rewinds on sunday now on exactly right listen to

disgrace land in hollywood land on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. This story contains adult content and language. Listener

discretion is advised. I should say the seriousness, the shock and awe of a public execution was definitely a message,

and it could be a message particularly to women.

I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a nonfiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas.

I'm also the co-host of the podcast Buried Bones on Exactly Right.

And throughout my career, research for my many audio and book projects has taken me around the world.

On Wicked Words, I sit down with the people I've met along the way,

amazing writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters

who have investigated and reported on notorious true crime cases.

This is about the choices writers make, both good and bad,

and it's a deep dive into the unpublished details behind their stories.

Throughout history, women have been convicted of crime, sometimes violent crime. We know that.

But most were not sent to the gallows. Historian Naomi Clifford decided to tell the story of a 40-year time period in England, starting in the late

1700s, and the women who were given the death penalty. She tells me about their crimes,

their defense, and their lives before their deaths. Her book is called Women and the Gallows.

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