In this lesson's episode, explore how true leadership begins after achieving success and shifts focus from personal wins to lasting impact.

Discover why responsibility and service redefined fulfillment beyond career milestones.

Understand how awareness of mortality brings clarity to values and decision making and uncover how using creative work to help others creates meaning that outlives achievement.

When did you start to think like that? Because this is leadership lessons. It transcends growth.

It transcends accomplishment. There's many people that are highly successful that don't think that way. And I, we're aligned with everything that you're saying. But you achieved what you wanted to achieve and you could have just killed it at Disney and never really taken a second thought as to what you wanted to accomplish your own life outside of that. Yeah. You know, it's so, you ask it beautifully.

I mean, I was at Disney. I got my dream. I had worked on Pocahontas, which is the first movie I worked on. And I worked on the hunchback of Notre Dame. And then Moulon, for four years, I worked on Milan. Remember that one? Of course. Let's get down to business, right? to defeat some people are singing in their cars,

the huns, right?

Some people who are never heard the song. So after Mulan, before I went on the movie Tarzan, we had at Disney what's called downtime. Basically, they were figuring out the script on the movie Tarzan for like a year. So the animators would come into work with nothing to do. And they said, you know, we're going to pay you, but you don't have to come into work at all. This is amazing. Like I said, it's called downtime. I always tell my kids, if anyone ever offers you a job and they say, we have downtime, take the job. Take it. You're getting paid to do nothing. And you know what downtime is in disney world you ride roller

coasters all day it's space mountain splash mountain thunder mountain woo right it became quite the mountaineer

in disney world right and downtime went to six months they said you don't even have to come in so me

and my buddies would go to the pools at the disney hotels there's over 15 hotels in disney world

and they had one of those lazy rivers at the beach Club Hotel. I love those. You don't even have to be alive and you can swim, right? And it moves you. Moves you for you. Right? Yeah. Got a cold pina clad in my hand. I remember my brother was in law school freezing. And he's like, Saul, what are you up to these days? I'm like, Jay, you don't want to know. Living the dream. Living the dream. Actually living the dream.

Yeah, I really was.

Yeah. freezing and he's like Saul what are you up to these days I'm like Jay you don't want to know live in the dream living the dream actually living the dream yeah I really was yeah and I had a checklist

of every single thing I ever could have wanted you know what if you could make a list and check

off every single thing you want I had my dream job I had this incredible girlfriend who I later

married right my friends I'm living in happiest place where I had this incredible girlfriend who I later married, right? My friends, I'm living in the happiest place where I had everything, but something felt

like it was missing.

And, you know, I grew up, I'm Jewish and I grew up, you know, not so religious.

You know, my parents definitely had a love of Judaism and a love of connecting to Judaism.

But as an individual who is now an adult, I didn't really understand my own Jewish identity.

So I got out of the pool one day and I found myself in Israel on a program to learn about Jewish history and my place within the Jewish people.

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