Hello, welcome to PezPod.

This is the second Pez Network podcast.

My name is David Poyser, a journalist,

and today I'm really interested to learn the lessons for the Pez Network from the pandemic.

Once again, I'm talking to Johannes Kopf,

whose chair of the Pez Network and head of the Austrian Pez.

And this time also to Martin Camps, head of the Dutch Pez.

So first of all, Martin from the Dutch Pez, you're the newcomer.

Can I ask you a little about yourself?

Have you been ice skating on those frozen ice on the Dutch canals?

Yes, sure.

I have.

That was two weeks ago.

We have this kind of weather once every 10 years now. It very cold and the ice was very thick so we all went skating for one weekend everybody was outside

like in all dutch paintings people skating with the windmills in the back so that's what i've

done but that was only one or two days because then the sun came up again and the ice was gone.

So, but we enjoyed it a lot. It was good and it was a good, after all the time that people have had to stay at home due to COVID.

It was good that everybody had an excuse to go outside and have some fun.

So that was very good.

So that's what I've done that weekend.

Normally I go cycling in the weekend on my bicycle through the dunes and through the glasshouses here in the west side of country.

I think that's easier for you than it is in Austria.

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