Hello. Welcome to the first Pez podcast. This is a really exciting moment. We hope that these

podcasts will help PEZ, public employment services all over Europe, understand how they can benefit

from working together and sharing experience. And also, we'd

love everybody interested in labour markets at a European level to listen as well. My name's David Poyser,

a journalist. And today I'm very excited to be talking to Johannes Kopp, whose chair of the

PES network and he's also head of the Austrian Pz. And we'll be talking about the challenges of 2020.

But before we do that, Johannes, please, can we just find out a little bit about who you are?

You live in Vienna with your family?

Yes, we have three boys, two small ones.

Sorry to stereotype you. Do you go skiing at the weekends, I imagine?

Normally we do snowboarding.

My wife and I, my boys are learning skiing and, yeah, they like to go to the Alps, of course, like the Austrians do.

But this year everything is different, I think, for all of us over Europe.

But I'm situated in Vienna and we are the Austrian Pass,

which means we have about 100 regional offices and are in hard time.

So there's also questioning of if there is time for go skiing.

So this is something different this year.

Yes, it's very sad for everybody. But first of all, when he became chair of the PES network,

you said you wanted to improve the way the PES network communicates. Why do you think

communicating is so important? I'd like to give three points to that question.

First of all, I think labour market policy is important and interesting for the people.

And it's not only that we want to communicate to employees of past and past colleagues,

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