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The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Trump's Racist Video and the Refusal to Apologize

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Esau McCaulley

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

A video shared by Donald Trump depicting Barack and Michelle Obama with a racist trope sparked outrage, swift defenses, and eventually, quiet deletion. Esau, Malcolm, and Mike explore the long history of dehumanizing imagery, the theological weight of the image of God, and why the refusal to repent may matter more than the original post. Then the conversation turns to rhetoric at the National Prayer Breakfast and the danger of blending national power with the language of the gospel. What does it mean to follow a crucified king in an age that prizes dominance?

 

0:00 - Theme Song

 

2:00 - Can You Beat Middle Schoolers at Basketball?

 

6:56 - Trump's Racist Obama Video

 

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25:26 - The Military and Religion

 

35:27 - What's Part of the Gospel?

 

46:00 - End Credits

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everybody, welcome to the Eastside Macaulay podcast.

0:09.5

I'm your host, Issa Macaulay.

0:11.4

We're joined by Malcolm Foley, who looks like he's doing some current research in the way

0:15.3

those books are stacked.

0:16.5

You were working before you jumped on the pod, right?

0:19.0

Maybe.

0:20.0

Okay then. What's in that, drink in the background?

0:22.3

What's that red?

0:23.2

You can see all. There's not, there not be a wine cooler. You know, we saved over here on the inside. It's a Starbucks. It's a Starbucks refresher. Okay. I wonder what's refreshing in. It's very red. That's all I'm saying. We also joined today by co-host, producer, Mike, who's now up to like 300 followers.

0:41.9

I'm like famous.

0:43.1

Yeah, look at this.

0:44.3

I saw him.

0:45.1

Now he's, sorry, for those of you who do not know, he was not active on Instagram.

0:50.4

We said if we can get up to a thousand reviews.

0:52.7

And so thank you to everybody who actually did leave a review on the podcast.

0:55.9

We're past the,

0:56.8

we're like blown past a thousand views.

0:58.7

It's also crazy.

0:59.4

We have a perfect score.

1:00.9

Yeah.

1:01.1

We're five out of five.

1:01.9

Yeah, five out of five.

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