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future with the degree you didn't think was possible. The Open University. The future is open. Hello and welcome to another episode of Kindled. So today I am chatting with Heather Robbins, who is someone who actually spent

10 years inside the Hebrew Roots movement. She was a Christian and got kind of caught up in the

teachings that she needed to observe Torah and keep all of the commands of the law of Moses. And so

she and her husband lived that way for about a decade.

And so she's going to share her testimony with us, what she believed while she was inside of

that movement, and how she ended up coming out of it. I will say this conversation is so huge.

This topic is vast. And so there's really no way that we could cover all the ground that

would be necessary in a one-hour conversation. And so I'm going to see about having Heather back

for a part two where we can talk more about how to reach our friends who are inside that

movement because I know that's many of you. So this episode will deal with her

testimony and how she came out of the movement. And then next time we will talk about how to

help our friends and loved ones who are still very much believing that they must observe

Torah and keep all of the commands of the law of Moses in order to, you know, be a faithful follower of

Christ. And really, I should say, just believer of the Bible because they don't quite believe

Christ is a deity and one with God. But more of that in my conversation with Heather.

Before I get into that, I want to remind you that every week I'm

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