All right, everybody, it's Adi.

And Sophie.

And we are coming to you live from Israel.

We are on a family trip.

And we're revisiting some of our old episodes.

And this one really just, we looked at it.

And actually couldn't believe that we had done something so deep around our traumas for years ago now.

Yeah, four years ago.

It's crazy because it seems like every time, at least for me,

every time we talk about certain taboo subjects,

I feel like it's the first time.

I always feel like so nervous.

And then I remember that the reason that I,

like that's exactly why I should share and that we should share and that if it makes you nervous, it's probably a good place to talk about.

And there's a lot of magic in that.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, the whole fuck shame thing, right?

And I remember when we talked about MDMA four years ago, we got to say it wasn't in the conversation as much as it is right now.

And it did feel like we were really kind of going out on a limb admitting that it was a big part of

your trauma release and our way of overcoming that. It's a tool. It's a tool. It's a magical tool just like

anything else. And you know, when you listen to this episode, if you've never tried MDMA and you're totally

closed off to that kind of stuff, just keep an open mind in general and just think about, you know,

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