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Battle-tested with the author Jeff McCausen.

Colonel Jeff McCausen, the United States Army retired.

He says, CBS News, but right now he's an author.

Battle-tested is about Gettysburg Leadership Lessons from 1863 for 21st century leaders and their lessons in all directions.

We now come to a conversation and a meeting of the minds between James Long Street, the core commander, a veteran core commander

of, they're all veterans of West Point in the Mexican War.

And Robert E. Lee, and the The Union has arrived and created what is called a fish hook from Gettysburg South along Cemetery Ridge to little and big and little round top.

James Longstreet comes forward with an idea that the battle does not have to be decided by a frontal assault.

It can be decided by maneuver. Jeff, Long Street's speech to Lee is convincing

here in the 21st century. Would it have been convincing in the 19th century to avoid battle, place yourself between the enemies, the enemy

and the capital and make them attack you.

Would that have made sense in those days?

Well, I think it would have because if you look back particularly at Fredericksburg, the Confederation

found they were most successful when they were on the defense and the Yankees were attacking

them.

So clearly based on technology and maneuver and mobility and a number of things it

seemed like the defense has a certain number of advantages. So when Longstreet

meets with Lee, of course Lee suggests that we're going to attack them if they're at that place.

That's what he would say.

Longstreet replies, General Lee, if they're still there tomorrow, they want you to attack

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