Hey guys, it's Kathy. I just want to share an extra mini episode with you every single week

because I want to be there for you. I want to be there to encourage you. I want to be there to

help you see things in a way that just feels like it's doable. Like you are so much closer than

you really think and I want to show you with possible. So here's one of our Minisodes. I hope

you like it. Take a listen. Because what I'm saying is everyone gets to be right and we don't

have to defend ourselves. See, everything you're saying right now, I don't care. This is how it is.

Leaders don't have to be likable. It's kind of like the opposite of what I'm saying because when

I'm saying is when you are so okay with who you are, then you can be like, I love. I don't have

I'm nothing to defend. So I can like find and find a way to make you feel super safe. But when I'm

really feeling everything you just said in that context is really important. That as soon as I feel

you might not like me, I feel like I might not be loved and therefore I'm going to say to you, I

don't care. I actually think all of the research about leadership is a feeling of being in residents

right, being powerful. And I think leaders create leaders. And I think we create leaders by helping

people see a mirror of their deepest strengths and giving them the safest environments to which they

can just kind of splatter creative messy thoughts in places. And then it allows them to cultivate

inside of them their own confidence, right? But I'm saying whether or not it's in leadership or

with someone else like what I'm saying to you is if my daughter says to me, mommy, this and that,

I'm like, you're right. Even if I can find three percent of it to meet her there because I'm not

offensive of it. If I'm okay with myself is what I'm saying. And I don't go into guilt and shame.

Oh my god, I yelled at you. No, I didn't yell at you. No, I didn't. I didn't yell. That's on you.

Like that's me not being okay. Like I just got totally pulled out of alignment. So I got to defend

myself. But when my daughter just together day, we went to somebody's house for dinner and she was

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