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Lead or go: What choice does Theresa May have?

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4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2018

⏱️ 30 minutes

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With James Forsyth, Giles Kenningham, Simon Ings, Sanbot, Cosmo Landesman and David Brockway.

Presented by Isabel Hardman.

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0:00.0

This podcast is sponsored by Seller Plan from Berry Brothers and Rudd, collecting fine wines for future drinking.

0:14.0

Welcome to The Spectator Podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman. On this week's episode, we'll be wondering whether Theresa May can weather this latest

0:20.8

storm, speaking to a robot expert and a literal robot, and getting the inside story of

0:26.2

male allyship workshops. First up, the Prime Minister's fortunes have ebbed and flowed since

0:31.6

her disastrous election, but a yuletide season of relative calm has been replaced by Theresa May's

0:36.4

greatest challenge yet.

0:38.8

Lead or go.

0:44.9

That's what James Versaith says in this week's cover piece as pressure mounts on Theresa May to cobble together something resembling an agenda.

0:49.4

He joins me now, along with Jars Kenningham, who worked at number 10 under David Cameron.

0:52.4

So James, how bad are things for Theresa May this week?

0:54.2

Last week you wrote about the government drifting.

0:58.0

It seems now more that it's drifted towards a waterfall and is about to fall off it.

1:04.0

I think things are bad because from the cabinet down, there is depression about the level of drift on both Brexit and domestic policy issues. One member of the Brexit in a cabinet tells

1:09.6

me that the Brexit policy making looks

1:11.3

even worse from the inside than the outside. And I think an example of this trip came on Monday,

1:16.4

which is the Brexit inner cabinet met. There are nine questions it's meant to deal with across

1:19.9

three meetings. And the three questions it was expected to deal with on Monday were Ireland,

1:26.0

security and data. And obviously Ireland goes a long way to telling

1:30.6

you what the eventual economic relationship with the EU that the UK is seeking is. But then when the

1:36.1

agenda for the meeting came out, Ireland wasn't on it. And it's just another example of how

1:40.9

Theresa May doesn't want to confront the biggest single question, which is,

1:44.8

what is the end state that the UK is looking for? So instead, they spent their time discussing

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