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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence: No one else on the planet but Americans will ever pay a Trump tariff

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

NBC News

Policy, Msnbc, Politics, President, Washington, Congress, Government, Senate, News

4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: GOP Sens. Murkowski and Collins oppose Pete Hegseth’s nomination. Also, a judge blocks the Trump order ending birthright citizenship. Plus, Donald Trump repeats the lie that Americans won’t pay tariffs. And Hulu’s “Say Nothing” chronicles the troubles in Northern Ireland. Rep. Mikie Sherrill, Neal Katyal, and Patrick Radden Keefe join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

Now it's time for the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell. Good evening, Lawrence.

0:03.4

Good evening, Rachel. I just wanted to add to what you were just discussing with Lisa Rubin,

0:07.5

that the abuse that has been described in that second marriage to Samantha Hegset.

0:14.1

This is from Pete Hegset's mother. This is her email to him at the time, where she says to him, you are an abuser of women,

0:24.9

and a man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power

0:30.9

and ego.

0:32.0

No accusation of physical abuse there.

0:34.3

She then goes on to list the abuse as, your abuse over the years to women,

0:39.3

dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling, needs to be called out. And what's so important

0:45.5

about this is, Republican senators are saying, they're defending him by saying there was no physical

0:51.1

abuse. And his second wife, Samantha, says there was no physical abuse.

0:55.6

That's correct.

0:56.9

She does say that.

0:58.8

Pete Hanks' mother describes what the abuse, the non-physical abuse, actually was that they're talking about, right there.

1:07.4

And with Lisa Rubin's new reporting tonight, we see this non-disparagement

1:12.2

agreement as part of the divorce papers, which does seem to open a whole new window into

1:21.0

what details we have heard, what corroboration we have or have not heard, what the Pete Hegseth's ex-wives may feel legally

1:32.8

constrained from talking about despite allegations named non-anonymous allegations from other people.

1:39.8

And it just feels quite materially relevant to the very serious questions raised about Mr. Hegeseth

1:48.0

that he has been deflecting and deflecting and deflecting.

1:51.8

And now we may know why we don't have some of those answers.

1:55.3

It just seems like a rush to me to hold his confirmation vote tomorrow while this whole new window has just been opened on the process.

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