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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

McConnell: Hegseth’s desire to be a ‘change agent’ not enough to lead Pentagon

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

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4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Vice President Vance breaks the tie to confirm Pete Hegseth as defense secretary. Also, states are fighting Donald Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship. Plus, Trump lied about ending the Ukraine-Russia war on “day one.” And billionaires and CEOs try to curry favor with Trump. Tom Nichols, Jennifer Rubin, Washington Attorney General Nick Brown, Amb. Michael McFaul, and Robert Reich join Ali Velshi.

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0:00.0

Right now, it's time for the last word.

0:01.5

We're Ali Vell. She is in for Lawrence tonight. Good evening, Ali. It's a big night.

0:04.6

Hi, my friend. It is. And thanks for that amazing coverage of it.

0:07.9

You know, I think a lot of people assumed it would be at least 51-49.

0:11.7

And then Mitch McConnell, of course, voting against Pete Higgs.

0:15.5

I know you've been very busy covering it all nights. I don't know if you've seen the one pager that Mitch McConnell put out,

0:22.5

but if I can just read a couple of things to you. He makes a reference in a paragraph to George

0:26.9

Marshall and to Casper Weinberger and to Bob Gates and the kinds of shoes that Pete Hankseth is

0:31.5

going to fill. He then says, quote, mere desire to be a change agent is not enough to fill

0:36.4

these shoes. And dust on boots fails

0:39.6

even to distinguish this nominee from multiple predecessors of the last decade, nor is it a

0:45.3

precondition for success. Secretaries with distinguished combat experience and time in the trenches

0:50.3

have failed at the job. Mr. Hegset has failed as yet to demonstrate that he will pass

0:55.7

this test, but as he assumes office, the consequences of failure are as high as they have ever

1:02.2

been. And fundamentally, that's the issue. You can like Pete Hegeseth, you can think he has

1:08.0

retrograde views on women and women in combat, and all of that would normally be disqualifying.

1:14.9

You could have an issue with his drinking.

1:17.4

But we're in a dangerous world right now, Rachel.

1:20.3

And Pete Hegeseth is going to lead the Defense Department.

1:22.7

Yeah. Pete Hexseth is going to lead the Defense Department as this new president is not ruling out the use of military force to expand the borders of the United States, to take, in his words, to take the Panama Canal.

1:37.0

He is threatening military force against one of our NATO allies.

1:40.5

We all know what happens when a non-NATO country threatens a country in NATO. All the

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