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Lawfare Archive: Nate Persily and Alex Stamos on Securing American Elections

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🗓️ 4 July 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

From June 11, 2019: More than two years after the 2016 presidential election, new information continues to seep into the public about the extent of Russia's sweeping and systematic efforts to interfere in the U.S. democratic process. With the 2020 presidential election on the horizon, last week, Stanford's Cyber Policy Center published a report on securing American elections, including recommendations on how the U.S. can protect elections and election infrastructure from foreign actors.

On Monday, Susan Hennessey spoke with two of the report's authors: Alex Stamos, director of the Stanford Cyber Policy Center's Internet Observatory and former Chief Security Officer of Facebook, and Nate Persily, Stanford law professor and expert on election administration. They talked about what happened in 2016, and the enormously complex landscape of defending not just election infrastructure but also preserving the integrity of the information ecosystems in which Americans make their decisions about how to vote, including the possible consequences of regulating foreign media.

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I'm J. Kocotakis with an episode from the LawFair Archive for July 4, 2023.

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Today's Independence Day, a day to commemorate and celebrate the second

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continental congresses unanimous adoption of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776.

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A central foundation of this 274-year-old country is democratic elections.

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But this pillar of American democracy has become increasingly vulnerable to foreign interference,

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as demonstrated in the 2016 presidential election.

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For today's Archive episode, I picked an episode from June 11, 2019,

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in which Susan Hennessy sat down with Alex Stamos and Nate Persily to discuss the possible consequences

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of regulating foreign media, defending election infrastructure,

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and preserving the integrity of American information ecosystems that influence voters' decisions.

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I'm Susan Hennessy, and this is the LawFair podcast, June 11, 2019.

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More than two years after the 2016 presidential elections, new information continues to seep into the public,

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but the extent of Russia's sweeping and systematic efforts to interfere in the US democratic process.

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With a 2020 presidential election on the horizon, last week, Stanford Cyber Policy Center published a report on securing American elections,

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including recommendations on how the US can protect elections and election infrastructure from foreign actors.

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On Monday, I spoke to two of the report's authors, Alex Stamos, director of the Stanford Cyber Policy Center's Internet Observatory,

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