Tim Wu on AI Regulation
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 3 July 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Until this year, Tim Wu was Special Assistant to President Biden for competition and tech policy. One of the leading thinkers in progressive approach to antitrust, Tim has since returned to Columbia Law School, where he is the Julius Silver Professor of Law, Science and Technology. Since leaving government, Tim has been offering his thoughts on how the government should regulate artificial intelligence.
Alan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota and Senior Editor at Lawfare, spoke with Tim about his experience in government, whether he's concerned about AI's existential risks, and what his priorities would be for making sure that AI serves society's, and not just the private sector's, interests.
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| 0:29.0 | You know, some of what we saw in 2016 is that people start to believe around the election things that aren't necessarily true or that things that are, that something is popular, that isn't popular, |
| 0:47.0 | again through the takeover of systems and the belief that humans are supporting or saying or doing things that they're not. |
| 0:56.0 | I think I see the same harms in business. |
| 1:00.0 | I are systems for understanding what is a popular business based on reputation, say Amazon Reviews or followers or so forth, also being corrupted. |
| 1:10.0 | And I think those are all going on and the attacks will get worse. |
| 1:14.0 | This is maybe not a world's most important thing, but notice and comment systems and democracy. |
| 1:19.0 | Also depend on the idea that people are human. |
| 1:21.0 | So I mean things where you think something is a human and they defraud you, take your money or take the leader you thought was going to be the leader of your country or make you buy a product that you thought was one way turns out to be another. |
| 1:32.0 | Those are the kind of harms that I think come out of impersonation most obviously. |
| 1:36.0 | I'm Alan Rosenstein, associate professor of law at the University of Minnesota and senior editor at LawFair. |
| 1:42.0 | And this is the LawFair podcast July 3rd, 2023. |
| 1:47.0 | Until this year, Tim Wu was special assistant to President Biden for competition and tech policy. |
| 1:53.0 | One of the leading thinkers in progressive approaches to antitrust, Tim has since returned to Columbia Law School, where he is the Julius Silver Professor of Law, Science and Technology. |
| 2:02.0 | Since leaving government, he's been offering his thoughts on how the government should regulate artificial intelligence. |
| 2:08.0 | I spoke with Tim about his experience in government, whether he's concerned about AI's existential risks and what his priorities would be for making sure that AI serves societies and not just the private sector's interests. |
| 2:19.0 | It's the LawFair podcast July 3rd, Tim Wu on AI regulation. |
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