Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SDS Nation?

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

And I know the guy you're looking at does not look like Phil or Scott, but that's because he's not.

We've got Dr. Detective Troy Looney, who is launching a show on our second channel, which is called True Crime Talk, the best talk in all of true crime.

Today we're going to focus quite heavily on

Maddie Soto's mother Jen Soto and I am searching for my notes on all of this

which seemed to have disappeared which is going to make it incredibly fun to do an entire show with none of my

show notes.

But it's never stopped me before as I continue to look here.

Oh, here we go.

This looks like it might be it.

So Phil Waters called me, being the gentleman that he is, to let me know that he is running late.

And why is Phil running late?

Because his car battery died.

Immediately, I said, was it the Ferrari to which he laughed and said, no.

It's funny because I told Troy and Troy Troy said I hope it wasn't a Ferrari.

But everyone, there's Blackwoodor saying hello to Troy.

She comes to us from the Republic of Ireland, Dr. Detective.

You guys need to get used to Dr. Detective because, as I said, the second channel is coming.

We're actually launching the first show, well, the official first show that's not the COE or me.

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