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Politics Unpacked

Labour's Caerphilly Collapse

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Plaid Cymru have swept to victory in Caerphilly, taking a Senedd seat that has been held by Labour for a century - will it convince Keir Starmer to change course?


Alexis Conran unpacks the politics of the day with Daisy McAndrew and Michael Binyon.


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0:00.0

I'm Alexis Conran sitting in for Ed Vasey. We're going to be unpacking the politics of the day now.

0:10.8

And to do that, we're going to be joined by the TV presenter, Royal Commentator for NBC Daisy McAndrew. Hi, Daisy.

0:17.3

Hello, good morning, Alexis. Also with us in the studios, Michael Binion. Michael, great to see you.

0:22.8

Yes, great. Hello. Well, look, let's kick off by looking at that result in Caffilly, where Pied Cunery have won a historic victory, pushing Labour into third place in a Senate seat they held for decades.

0:37.2

A pride's Lindsay Whittle won 47% of the vote.

0:41.0

Here he is, speaking, after the result was announced. Listen now, Cardiff, and listen,

0:45.8

Westminster. This is Calfili and Wales telling you we want a better deal for every corner of Wales.

0:56.7

The big parties need to sit up and take notice.

1:01.7

Wales, we are at the dawn of new leadership.

1:04.9

We are at the dawn of a new beginning.

1:07.6

Michael, Labour won just 11% of the vote in a seat they used to take for granted. I think one of the

1:15.2

political commentators was saying that you used to just weigh the vote rather than count it for

1:20.1

Labour. It was just such a given. It's fair to say the Labour were expecting not to win,

1:26.7

but how bad is this for Labour?

1:28.7

It's very bad. The only consolation is that Reform didn't win.

1:32.8

But why is that a consolation, do you think?

1:34.4

Well, because that would have been yet another indication that reform is on. And wherever they go,

1:39.1

they can push through Labour seats as well as Tory seats. And Wales, having been no labour stronghold for years and years

1:45.3

years years if reform won their first seat there or at least certainly a significant seat

1:50.5

that would make Labour feel that really reform is at their heels all the time it's not good

1:56.8

that they actually came third rather than second and it shows that there's a sort of protest vote, I think, for Plied Cumbery. I think it's people fed up with both parties, both Tories and Labour. The Libidems didn't get a look in even 2%. Well, they lost their deposit. Yeah, well, that's even, I mean, that's really sad for them. So, that's the Conservatives as well.

2:17.5

Yes, I mean, that is a dreadful result for the Conservatives, but they were never

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