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🗓️ 23 October 2025
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Shabana Mahmood says her department remains “not yet fit for purpose,” after The Times uncovered a secret report calling it dysfunctional and detached from reality. Should we be worried that we're still using that phrase, 20 years after John Reid first made it famous?
Hugo Rifkind unpacks the politics of the day with Manveen Rana and Patrick Kidd.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to unpack the politics of the day, |
| 0:08.8 | from the home office in crisis to the politics of pints to whether Nick Clegg is right about |
| 0:12.7 | not bringing your authentic self to work. And with me now, it doesn't get much more authentic than this. |
| 0:17.8 | I've just eaten a donut, which means it's Manvin Rana. Hello, Manveen. |
| 0:20.4 | Hello. How are you? Fine. I've just realised my authentic self is clearly just a donut. Authentic self is carrying donuts. It's quite different. And also the very authentic Patrick Kidd. Hello, Patrick. No donuts from me. I'm not sure what my authentic... I'll bring a cheeseball next time I come on, perhaps. That would be authentic. Yeah, I wouldn't say no. A nice see I can see I can see I can see I can see I can see I can see I can see I can see I can see I can see what we've got for that next time favorite cheese oh I got a nice smelly munster from Greenwich Market last week what is a monster it's a big smelly cheese is it a hard cheese soft soft soft and the owner said to me have you had it before yeah it's like as a morning. Well, and he said because we had a woman who came back in and said it was very smelly, and. And the owner said to me, have you had it before? Yeah, it would sort of like as a warning. |
| 0:54.4 | And he said, because we had a woman who came back in and said it was very smelly. |
| 1:08.4 | And we looked at each other and said, that's the point. Jesus. And so we sympathised about the state of the British. Manvian favourite cheese? Oh, God, where do I begin? Oh, um. I don't panic. |
| 1:08.9 | I know. |
| 1:09.6 | They're humane. |
| 1:11.2 | I'm very big on shoes. Man means like move on to the difficult geopolitics. |
| 1:13.2 | I'm stumped on the cheese question. |
| 1:14.3 | I know there are too many I'm very big on shoes move on to the difficult geopolitics I'm stumped on the cheese question Marx has pincers cornish cruncher with balsamic onions I like an appencella An appencella myself Nice hard German appencella tastes a bit like fudge I don't think I've tried an appancella I'll bring one in next time. Is that the Danish one which tastes like fudge? |
| 1:27.7 | It's German. |
| 1:28.4 | German, sorry. |
| 1:29.3 | German, sorry. |
| 1:29.5 | But it's sort of, it's, it's almost brown, tastes like fudge. |
| 1:32.8 | It's a fudgier kind of emmental. It's amazing. Yeah. Should we talk about something else? Such as, for example, the news. there are still |
| 1:39.8 | 70 days left of 2025 |
| 1:41.9 | but already more migrants have crossed |
| 1:44.0 | the channel in small boats than in all of last year |
| 1:46.2 | the government's plan to stop the crossings as 70 days left of 2025, but already more migrants have crossed the channel in small boats than in all of last year. |
| 1:46.7 | The government's plan to stop the crossings has hit another problem. |
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