Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Bakari Sellers podcast.

Today we'll be interviewing Chef Kwame and Wache.

But before we get the chef Kwame, because that episode is really, really dope, he teaches me a lot,

and I want you all to know that

Sugar is supposed to go in grits. I wanted to share some initial thoughts from the first few days

of the Derek Schoven murder trial. In case you missed it this past Tuesday, there was some powerful testimony that I wanted to share here from the two young witnesses to the murder, nine-year-old Judea-rennels and her 19-year-old Darnella Frazier. And there was another witness, Donna Williams, that Derek Chauvin's attorney sought to

paint as an angry black man whose threats to Derek Chauvin as he witnessed a murder were apparently inappropriate for the circumstances and

so threatening that Chauvin had no place to go other than staying on the neck of George Floyd out of fear for the bystanders.

As a criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that I don't necessarily think that's a winning

strategy, but again, we shall see.

But I want you to let that sink in.

Chauvin was murdering George Floyd

in front of children and other witnesses, who rightly,

like Donna Williams, called him out in real time

for being a piece of shit that Chauvin is and he was.

And what's the defenses go to that the white officer feared for his safety from a black man

who had to call the police on the police as they were killing another

black man, so he had no other choice but to kneel on George Floyd's neck for almost 10 minutes.

This all wild children watched.

What we saw in this testimony were heroes,

two children who endured unthinkable trauma,

take the witness stance to secure justice for George Floyd,

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