Virginia's got a thing going with Spencer Price. She just thinks he is fantastic.

I've been a lot of the podcast that I listen to out in Los Angeles, have featured him

because he's such a good podcast co-host or guest to have on. He really is real and humble about how he just wants a comeback.

He just wants another chance at Hollywood.

And he's so likable in his delivery.

I know back when he was on the hills, Jay Bird wants to say, you know, how bad he was.

He was considered very unlikable on those shows.

But he talks about how, you know, he played it up on purpose.

He was a douche on purpose.

It's not really him.

That's not who he is as a person.

It's kind of what you're saying.

I mean, I think they all played it up to be on the show.

If you didn't play it up, your character didn't get screen time.

Okay. That's how reality shows work.

Wait, the Hills wasn't real? So you really think Spencer Pratt? He deserves redemption.

The Spencer that I know, the Spencer in the here and now is so likable.

Okay. The one I would go, and I thought I'd never say this, but he does appear

to be more humble, and he kind of makes fun of himself now. It's Fred Durst from Limpisket.

Not nearly the D-back he used to be. Way more humble than he used to be. Okay, life has humbled

him over the last 20 years.

I think so, because he was in your face a lot.

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