Hello, this is everything else the FT Culture podcast. I'm Al, food and drink editor.

And I'm Gris, commissioning editor on the FTs Arts Desk. In today's episode, we'll be discussing

consent. I've been talking to the writer, Kristen Rupennian, whose short story, Catperson, went viral

when it was published in the New Yorker at the end of 2017, and it became a real focal point

for many of the conversations in the early days of Me Too.

Christian has just published a collection of short stories called You Know You Want This,

and Gris talked to her about that, what it was like to have basically her first published short story become an internet sensation, and how she reflects on that exhilarating but strange period of her life now.

It's a fascinating interview.

One of the big themes of Cat Person was sex, where we draw the line between a bad date and non-consensual sex and whether we should draw that line.

So we'll discuss all of that later in the episode.

And for that, Grizz and I will be leaving the FT headquarters that line. So we'll discuss all of that later in the episode.

And for that, Grizz and I will be leaving the FT headquarters in search of a cozy pub in which to have this frank and potentially fraught discussion about consent and the difficulties

that tend to arise in conversations around it.

There are few areas of popular culture that aren't actually impacted by the controversies and conversations around it. There are few areas of popular culture

that aren't actually impacted

by the controversies and conversations

around the issue of consent.

So Al and I thought it was time to examine our own attitudes

and have one of those difficult conversations ourselves.

Hi Al.

Hey, Chris.

How are you?

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