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Hello everyone and welcome to Untangle, the meditation podcast from Guyam.

I'm your host, Patricia Carpice. In this series,

we introduce you to real people with extraordinary stories and experts who have devoted their

lives to teaching and helping others through meditation. In today's episode, I sat down with

Koshin and Chodo, co-founders of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care. The focus of their organization is to train and educate people to be more mindful and compassionate

in hospitals and hospices, as well as in their everyday relationships.

Today they talk about the work that they do and the new book that Cotion edited,

Awake at the Bedside, Teachings on Palliative and End of Life

Care. Here's their story.

I want to welcome Cotian and Chodo today. I am so excited to be here in New York, interviewing

them. So I want to start by getting a little background on each

of you so people can get to know you and love you the way that we all do. So, Koshin, why don't

you tell us a little bit about your background and I want to know how you got into meditation

in the first place. Well, it's so sweet to be with you.

And how did I get into meditation in the first place?

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