Hey guys and welcome to episode 125 of the O. C. D. Stories.

dot com podcast and this episode I got on the O. CED stories.com podcast.

And this episode I got on Kirsten Pagosh.

Kirsten wrote the book leaving the O. Cerede circus.

Now I got the pleasure of meeting Kirsten at the OCD conference in San Francisco last year.

She introduced her sales so it's a pleasure to meet her. I'm always grateful when people introduce themselves

because that saves me the anxiety of doing it myself.

So maybe that's something I should confront.

However, the book was a great read.

She kindly sent me a copy and it was great prep for this interview.

So Kirsten 9ly wrote that book which is the founder of Retro-A-Gogo.com, which is an online website selling sort of Kitch, Giffs and so

of Nick Nax. So if you're into that sort of thing go check them out there and

and show your support. So in this episode we obviously talk about

Kirsten's book we break down her OCD story, you know the struggle, the recovery

where she's at now what's helped her

obviously exposure and response prevention therapy

medication and all the other things that have helped her and continue to support her in her day-to-day life.

So I put out various things from the book.

We also talk about her newsletter called Soul Nutrients, which is bits and bobs of information that Kirsten finds useful,

points of views, philosophies, and we break down a couple of those.

So one was tips for choosing the path of wellness

instead of illness.

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