Kirk Jones and Robert Aramayo on the making of ‘I Swear’
The Business
KCRW
4.5 • 699 Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
This week, Kim Masters speaks with director Kirk Jones and actor Robert Aramayo about I Swear, the BAFTA winning film about Tourette’s advocate John Davidson. Jones talks about using his own life savings to self-finance the project after potential backers pushed him to tone down the film’s language, and how that decision allowed him to cast Aramayo in the lead without studio oversight. Aramayo discusses the physical and emotional demands of portraying Davidson, a role that required extensive preparation and ultimately earned him a BAFTA. They also reflect on the widely publicized moment at the BAFTA ceremony that brought renewed attention to Tourette’s syndrome.
Plus, in the aftermath of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, Kim Masters and Matt Belloni unpack the FCC scrutiny facing The Walt Disney Company over a recent late-night jab from Jimmy Kimmel. The duo also explore the unexpected box office strength of a controversial Michael Jackson biopic and the delicate balancing act at Lionsgate as it weighs a potential sequel amid ongoing public backlash.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business. |
| 0:06.1 | Director Kirk Jones broke the first rule of Hollywood by using his own money, his life |
| 0:10.9 | savings to make, I swear, his film about Tourette's advocate, John Davidson. That freed him to do |
| 0:17.2 | things his way, including casting a little known actor in the lead role. |
| 0:21.7 | His gamble has paid off in more ways than one. |
| 0:24.2 | Maybe all those awards and all that financial success is just a coincidence, or maybe |
| 0:30.1 | financiers should now and again remember that trusted creative people, when left alone, |
| 0:36.4 | can deliver things which might not have got through the filtering system financiers often impose. |
| 0:44.8 | Jones talks about making that bold decision after a potential backer suggested that he toned down the expletives in the script. |
| 0:52.1 | That's an interesting act if you understand anything about Tourette's, |
| 0:55.3 | which involves involuntary movements and vocalizations. Lead actor Robert Arameo, now a BAFTA |
| 1:01.4 | winner, tells us about preparing for a role that pose big physical and verbal challenges. |
| 1:06.8 | Kirk and Jones also addressed that widely publicized incident at the BAFTA Awards. |
| 1:11.7 | But first we banter, stick around. It's the business from KCRW. |
| 1:18.0 | I am joined by my colleague in banter, Matt Bellany, and I'm happy to say Matt is with us safe and sound. |
| 1:23.7 | He was kind enough to send me a selfie from underneath the table at the White House correspondence dinner. |
| 1:29.8 | And I appreciated that because, of course, we want you to be alive and well met. |
| 1:34.4 | It's all fun in games now that nobody was killed, but it was pretty scary. |
| 1:38.2 | I'll bet it was, yes. |
| 1:40.2 | So the Trump administration has seized this opportunity to ask for everything, starting with the ballroom and going from there. |
| 1:48.5 | They've gone on with the attack, once again, with Jimmy Kimmel. |
| 1:51.9 | Kimmel did a pre-dinner roast because they were having no comedian this year. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from KCRW, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of KCRW and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

