From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

William Shatner and Neil deGrasse Tyson. I didn't have that pairing on my bingo card,

but the two are here to talk about their live show, which they've taken on the road,

and many other things. With this duo, it's not always easy to get a word in edgewise,

but I did ask whether Tyson

had been a young Star Trek fan. He would have been about 10 years old when the series

debuted in 1966, but like millions of others, he only found the show after it was canceled.

I would just catch reruns. Because of syndication. Yeah, syndication, exactly. I remembered

saying, phasers, sure, warp drive, got it. What? The door just opens when they walk up to it. That'll never happen. Don't ever take predictions from me.

Shatner and Tyson talk about their live show. The universe isurd, which plays later this month in Los Angeles,

and we boldly tackle everything from science fiction to science fact. But first we banter. Stick

around. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined by my partner in banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. So, I think one of the first pieces,

maybe the first piece I wrote for Puck was about Greta Gerwig and her Narnia movie. And the piece I wrote

was that some of the theatrical chains were balking because this is a Netflix project. And you know

it's important to Greta Gerwig to have a theatrical

release. She's that kind of auteur director. She's a huge force now, because of course,

for success with Barbie, among other things. So what happened was IMAX was assuring Greta Gerwig

and Netflix, we can run this on all of our screens. And what I reported

is, not really, no, you can't, because the theater owners decide what runs on the IMAX

screens. But this Rich Gelfand of IMAX said, well, I have a nuclear option and I can make them

run it on their screens. So there was a little bit of a mystery. Would these theaters, which have always

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