on today's episode of the Real Foodology podcast.

I mean, I think a lot of picky eaters come from picky parents.

Either picky parents or parents that just don't know or they're so, you know,

overwhelmed that they just are doing the best they can.

And so throwing something in that's easy is, you know,

giving that to them is just what's easiest. But I do, I do believe that a lot of, if not all,

the nutrition of kids starts with, you know, it starts with us. I mean, we have to take

accountability. Like, we are their parents, and it's up to us to

help develop their taste buds. Who else is going to do that? Hi, welcome back to another episode of

the Real Foodology podcast. I am Courtney Swan. I'm really excited about today's episode. I realize

that I say that a lot. It's not lost on me, but it's genuine. I am so grateful that I get to

have these amazing conversations with people. You know, my, my passion is nutrition and healthy living

and educating on what it means to be truly healthy and how to really feel good in your body. And so

when I have the opportunity to have really amazing conversations with people that I respect,

and I just have fun with them. I have so much fun with these conversations. This one in particular

has been on my list for a long time. I've been wanting to do this,

but I needed to find the right person to have this conversation. On today's episode, I talk with

Jamie L. Matthews. She is a journalist and also a holistic health educator with her master's in

nutrition, and she also happens to be a mom of five. She also wrote a book called Sunroofs and Shoeboxes,

which should be out by the time that this episode airs. Like I said, I really enjoyed this

conversation. I've been wanting to have this for a long time as someone who personally really

wants kids. And I have a lot of friends that have kids. So this topic of discussion is really

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